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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:03:00 -
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Assuming that PROTO and adv. AV is getting removed temporarily, this actually makes sense. If not, we're ******. |
Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:43:00 -
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DS 10 wrote:You do know nothing is happening to AV right?
Not confirmed yet as far as I know. |
Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2013.10.03 21:50:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell 
lol |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:07:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no. lol, STD AV vs STD tanks  If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once.
Have you seen the stats that we have now? Please for god's sake be ******* quiet..... |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:09:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell lol You have proto squads though, and plenty of AV to spare. I don't care, I'll fly through hell every day of the week. 
We fly and drive through hell on a daily basis already. It'll probably get worse. You know what? **** it. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:17:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Considering that proto, and to a lesser extent ADV, AV is the only viable way to control vehicles like tanks and DS's, no. lol, STD AV vs STD tanks If this was the case, tankers would get their wish and be invincible. No good tank and pilot are getting killed by STD AV unless half the team was bombarding them all at once. Can I ask whats the point in std and adv av if everyone uses proto and as you claim std av is usless against havs . Tbh its not if you use somthing calld team work proto av was introdused to tackle proto vehicles and since we dont have proto vehicles its blatently op.
this, and again, shut the **** up. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:18:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Better learn how to kamakazi with a Gorgon cuz dropships gon' be mean as hell lol You have proto squads though, and plenty of AV to spare. I don't care, I'll fly through hell every day of the week. We fly and drive through hell on a daily basis already. It'll probably get worse. You know what? **** it. Batten down the ******* hatches, ****'s about to hit the ******* fanEject? **** you HAHAHAHAH CHAAAARGE!!
'aims ik Forge at Dropship' Your day is about to turn to **** ************ tehehe..... |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:24:00 -
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I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:33:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP. What about Skills, Modules, and Turrets ... you looked at those too ? Is not all about eHP you know ... other factors counts too.
Yes, I accounted for everything. This is with max skills as well. Oh, and With the said fit, there's no small turrets, and one HI slot is not filled. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:42:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I did, as well as did the math. My fit is even worse than now, by about 2k eHP. What about Skills, Modules, and Turrets ... you looked at those too ? Is not all about eHP you know ... other factors counts too. Yes, I accounted for everything. This is with max skills as well. Oh, and With the said fit, there's no small turrets, and one HI slot is not filled. Then the repairer got changed, so it rep through damage, overall, it's a pretty hard nerf. Maybe you should look at other possible fit's ? They did balance the suits in a similar way... sometimes you have to compromise eHP for more fire power, or the other way around. I just saying.. the only problem i seeing is the AV grenades, and hopefully CCP will remove those before the changes are implemented.
Dude, this is with a STD turret, missing two turrets, and a HI slot, all for tank, and it's STILL weaker. |
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:43:00 -
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I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:53:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one. Maybe that is the plan.... we don't know yet. But i will assume that will be logical, making Vehicles easier to destroy, but also more affordable. That will make the game a lot more Dynamic and the Vehicles a lot more fun. The Bigger Picture. 
If a vehicle is easy to kill, then it's a easy loss. They can't cost as much as Dropships (resources), so it would make it even worse than now. Try again. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
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Posted - 2013.10.03 22:59:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:I know for one thing: If PROTO AV still exists after, they better become far more expensive, or HAV's and LAV's get's a massive price drop. DS's can get a small one. Maybe that is the plan.... we don't know yet. But i will assume that will be logical, making Vehicles easier to destroy, but also more affordable. That will make the game a lot more Dynamic and the Vehicles a lot more fun. The Bigger Picture. If a vehicle is easy to kill, then it's a easy loss. They can't cost as much as Dropships (resources), so it would make it even worse than now. Try again. I just given you the Bigger Picture and you refuse to look at it.... fine... keep looking at the floor then. I don't think CCP is going to change this, and is definitely what Dust 514 needs.
Wait until they release the player based market for it, then try and make them cost tons of resources. The price will go up on them by tons, and they'll be forced to buff them then. |
Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2013.10.03 23:42:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:ladwar wrote:your right its 10x worse then everyone is picturing. thats why it got pushed twice. because they tested it and went wow... who every thought this up want to remove all vehicles because they are junk. You guys are just stuck in that EvE type of thinking.. everything is Space Ships with you. A tank is not a meta level 5 indestructible titan class super destroyer, and this is not a Space Simulator. FPS games work in a different way, and is about time CCP finally realize this. You call it a mistake, i call it evolution.
1: Pretty sure (like positive) That Titan's, as well as the DD is meta lvl 10
2: We didn't say they were, we said they needed more survivalbility to handle PROTO AV, as it wasn't cutting it as is. And this is coming from people that has the skills maxed out, and has been practicing at this for almost 2 years now. Picture how bad it must be for the noobs..... 
3: The market will come sooner or later, and so will manufacturing. That means that the prices will come into our hands. You know what that also means? Prices will most likely go up, as it will cost high in resources. That means they will have to buff it, as it's not viable to use a **** vehicle at a high cost. What don't you ******* get about that? This ain't Battlefield. OUR VEHICLES COST MONEY. |
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